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The Elephant In The Room at the Comedy Awards

This weekend, the 2nd Annual Comedy Awards took place. These are the awards where comedians do what every other industry does for itself, while maintaining enough of a distance so as to still plausibly mock the idea of awards shows.

As I followed some of the results via Twitter the name Louis CK kept coming up.  No big surprise there.  He has established himself as the man of the moment in comedy.  A sort of infallible figure of fallibility for comedy fans.  His show “Louie” won best show, in the alternative show category, helping it avoid a showdown with comedy series winner “Parks and Recreation.”

But as a stand up comic I was most interested in seeing who won best stand up special. The nominees were Louis CK, Daniel Tosh, Colin Quinn, Patton Oswalt and Norm MacDonald.  First I will offer my opinion that of the nominees (for their specials, not their bodies of work) I would have CK no higher than third. MacDonald’s special was better and Colin Quinn’s Broadway show was absolutely terrific.

But CK’s special represented a game changer, or so I was repeatedly told.  He bucked the industry by self-producing his own special.  Jim Gaffigan and Aziz Ansari copied his model.  Now, thanks to Louis’ example, at least a dozen comedians can do this. Maybe even two dozen. And after that, I don’t think it will have any effect on the careers of individual comedians. The widespread distribution and opportunities offered by television are still needed by almost all comedians to get to the next level.  Did CK change the game? Or did he just demonstrate that after decades of climbing within the ranks of the business he now has the clout to reject it?  And before continuing I must say, because, as I have learned, when people read my posts with their own pre-dispositions, they read what they want out of my words, that this is still a compliment to CK.  He made a brilliant decision for HIS career.  My only qualm is the extrapolation that fans have made from his career to the rest of the industry. If he has changed the game then he is bigger than just a comedian and therefore worthy of cultural icon status, which may have already occurred.  But if, as I would contend, he has not changed the game, but merely his own game, then some of the praise heaped on him is overblown and is creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of greatness around all that he produces, regardless of whether it is actually always great or not.

Louis CK

The last time I remember a comedian becoming as big (and CK is now bigger) as this was Dane Cook.  Dane Cook had a methodical, social media-driven, hard work climb over 10+ years to become the biggest name in comedy.  But the backlash against Cook was swift and furious.  Probably because the comedy community and the public at large had no real qualms about bashing a young, fit, charismatic performer, regardless of how well he did for stand up comedy as a business. Louis seems to be bulletproof.  Some of his invincibility comes from his soft underbelly, literally:   his words are harsh and honest, but his delivery device is humble and not intimidating.  Almost all friends of mine who are CK devotees acknowledge to me that they did not think that the Beacon Theater special was his best work and that there were more worthy specials this year.  But because of the “game changing” aspect of the special it was worthy.  But as I already indicated, I don’t really think it changed the game.  The same way George Carlin claimed voting was just the illusion of power, at this point, only those entertainers who already have power, can wield enough power to buck the system.  So if it was not the best special of the year (or at least not definitively) and not truly game changing, what is the justification?

Dane Cook

My biggest disappointment in seeing the nominees and the eventual winner though, was the absence of the late, great Patrice O’Neal.  In a twist of sad irony to this post, Louis actually dedicated the Beacon Theater special to the memory of O’Neal.  O’Neal passed away late last year, but not before leaving the comedy community with Elephant In The Room, which is really just a notch below Chris Rock’s Bring the Pain for me on my all time favorite comedy specials, and Mr. P, his hilarious album, released posthumously.  I remember watching Elephant In The Room and thinking “this is going to get Patrice the next-level recognition he deserves.”  I thought it was hands down the best special of the year. No distribution gimmicks, no hype, just great stand up.  The silver lining to his tragic death should have been an increased visibility and respect for his work.  But then, late last year I noticed a poll on a comedy website that had eleven or so comedians up for “Favorite Comedian of the Year” and he was not even on the list.  And then the Comedy Awards did not even NOMINATE Elephant in The Room

Patrice O'Neal

Now people reading this who are already pre-disposed to embrace all that is Louis CK will probably just call me a hater.  I’ll admit there are a ton of comedians whose comedy I like more than Louis CK (if you want to know, Bill Burr and Chris Rock are my favorite living comedians).  But I also greatly respect CK’s dedication, his work ethic and and the prominence that he has brought to stand up.  If you are not quite at the “fu*k you J-L you hater” level, then maybe you would like to say “Hey J-L, I respect your opinion, but why is it so wrong for Louis to have won this? He is a great comic and it is all subjective anyway, right? How is your opinion ‘better’ than mine?”  Go watch Elephant in The Room and the Beacon Theater special and tell me there is not a difference.  And it is also just the notion that CK was crowned the way Adele was at the Grammies.  I don’t like a comedy world where we sort of have a coronation.  Even Carlin’s second to last special sucked and it was reviewed as such. But he came back and did a great one for what would be his last special.  That is how comedy should work.  You are only as good as your last show. Sure fans will give you a break because they are your fans, but should an entire industry be giving the same blind loyalty to a performer? That is largely what makes it difficult, especially when you reach that upper echelon.  You have to produce new material regularly and it has to meet the high standards you have established for yourself.  Dane Cook tapered off after his hard-earned climb to the top and he was crucified for it.  For Louis CK, however,  it seems that there is no objectivity even allowed because the comedy community is so enamored with him (“Did you think his last special was an A+ or an A++? A B+? Well fu*k you you jealous hater!”).  There is a lot to appreciate and respect about CK and I have laughed at plenty of his material.  But every so often, the avalanche of adoration impedes a deserved and justified opportunity for someone else.  I think the Comedy Awards, for whatever they are worth, did Patrice O’Neal and stand up comedy a great disservice by not awarding, let alone failing to nominate, Elephant In The Room.

2 Responses to The Elephant In The Room at the Comedy Awards

  • It all started when I was reading a review for ‘Hilarious.’ The acolyte ball-washing hyperbole that was spilling forth from the writer for something that I considered to be a strong in parts and ok overall album bordered on fucking ridiculous to me. I couldn’t believe that Patrice was still going unnoticed when compared to the rest of the comedy scene. This guy had the balls to say that Louis was one of the most shocking and boundary pushing people out. I sat there disgusted. Patrice, to their face, used to tell feminists and women psychologists why men are innately better and why women are evil (rightly or wrongly.) He stated cases, in some instances, counter to the black community as a black man because he didn’t believe in bullshit whilst still maintaining a black credibility. He never let anyone get the jump on him in any aspect of his life – much to his detriment. He wanted to indoctrinate the idea of 3-way relationships into mainstream society. He used to destroy careers with a look and commanded respect from everyone who knew what true comedy is, even when they hated him. …But Louis is the shocking one because he said his daughter is a cunt. I decided to write my diatribe on the website – AV Club or something like that – it was promptly deleted by the admins. You voiced something that I think consistently. I don’t mean this as a disrespect to Louis, the years he’s plugged away, his work ethic, his intelligence (which is when he’s at his best when he’s ruminating on shit he knows – which seems like a lot.) But I don’t think he’s that great of a comic. He’s a great writer. But I don’t see him in the same world as Patrice. Patrice embodied everything that is great about not only a stand-up comic but a true artist. Patrice was fallible, contradictory, childish, infuriating, charming, intelligent, perspicacious, serious, facetious. He cut himself and bled at every chance for his fans. He is one of the greatest to ever do it. His appearances on Tough Crowd and O&A only serves to exemplify why he was one of those people that only come around once in a generation/lifetime. I think history will be kind to Patrice, he has to rise to the top, he has to, he’s far too good to not be mentioned with the likes of Pryor and Carlin (and I personally think Quinn is up there as well, but I could see how other’s would disagree – he’s a much more of an acquired taste.) But The Comedy Awards should just be shut down. They have no credibility whatsoever for having done this. But in reality, they’re just a microcosm for everything that happens nowadays, so you can’t get too frustrated about it. History will propel Patrice to the level of godlike reverence he deserves.

    P.s. I also love Billy Burr too, he’s really starting to enter that area of one of the GOAT as well.

  • Sorry about the essay of a comment, but I thoroughly enjoyed your view and couldn’t agree with it more. Great article!

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